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This is a reconstruction of what was intended to be TheTurtles final album Shell Shock. Producedby Jerry Yester for a 1970 release, the band envisioned Shell Shock as theirmasterpiece and career coda but it remained unfinished due to extreme meddling fromtheir record label. White Whale Records went back on their word to fund the albumand entrapped frontmen Flo and Eddie to bend to their corporate wishes. After dissolving the band, White Whaletrickled out the Shell Shock material, in various forms of completeness, onvarious compilation releases until the label themselves dissolved as well. This reconstruction attempts to cull all thematerial originally recorded and meant to be a part of the Shell Shock projectinto a finished, cohesive album, utilizing the best possible masters of eachtrack. An extreme example of the commercial world destroying theartistic, quite simply: The Turtles are martyrs. Locked into a record contract so rigid thatfrontmen Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman were not even allowed to use theiractual names after the break-up of The Turtles, much of their career in the 60swere spent fighting the industry that restrained them.
Miraculously, many of their successes wereembodiments of this—most notably their hit song “Elenore”, a sarcastic responseto their label’s request to write an assembly-line pop hit in the fashion oftheir signature hit “Happy Together”. Thatfriction climaxed in 1969 as the band began winding down after years of bitingthe hands that barely fed them as well as the commercial let-down of their previous album, the RayDavies-produced Turtle Soup. In an attempt for a final bravado, the quintet assembled at Sunset Sound studios inlate 1969 and began recording their usual mix of originals and outside-writtentracks. Produced by Jerry Yester, theband again sought to record another intelligent and musically diverse album as Turtle Soup, this time a bit more commercial.
Starting out in the early 1960s as an instrumental band playing surf music under a variety of names, The Turtles saw the impact that 'British invasion' groups were having on pop music and in 1964 decided to go in that direction. The 1960s brought many outstanding groups during the 60s decade. The Turtles represented the best of the best. The band, originally a surf-rock group called the Crossfires from the Planet Mars, was formed in 1965 in Westchester, California (a Los Angeles neighborhood) by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman.
Songsknown to have been recorded during these sessions include: originalsongs “Can I Go On”, “If We Only Had The Time”, “There You Sit Lonely”, “We Ain’tGonna Party No More” and guitarist Al Nichol’s “You Want To Be A Woman”; theBonner/Gordon leftovers “Goodbye Surprise” and “Like It Or Not”; an authenticcover of Jan & Arnie’s “Gas Money”; and a cover of the band's live staple, Lee Andrews & The Hearts’“Teardrops”. But midway through thesessions, White Whale wished The Turtles to have a hit single, and suggestedthat Kaylan and Volman fly to Memphis and record vocal overdubs on apre-recorded backing track for the ridiculously corny song “Who Would EverThought That I Would Marry Margaret”, penned by professional songwriters Dinoand Sembello. Kaylan and Volman refused,claiming this transgression would reduce their rock band into transparent popidols. In retaliation for their refusalto turn their band into a pair of fake pop singers, White Whale chained thedoors to their studio at Sunset Sound and even posted guards outside the door, not allowing TheTurtles to even retrieve their own gear, let alone finish the album! In a desperate attempt to save the Shell Shock recordingsand the hope to somehow finish the album, Kaylan and Volman agreed to record “Margaret”,although they refused to add anything other than their necessary lead andbacking vocals.
This ‘unfinished’ mixwas released to dismal critical and commercial attention—just as the pair hadpredicted—and the single was a flop. Despite Kaylan and Volman’s participation, White Whale still refused tolet The Turtles finish Shell Shock and both parties sued each other: WhiteWhale sued The Turtles for a breach of contract and The Turtles sued WhiteWhale for a missing $2,500,000 that was owed to them.
The band soon called it quits amidst litigation. In one final plea to salvage the band’sreputation, White Whale allowed Kaylan, Volman and Nichol to record vocals for afinal Turtles single, the beautiful “Lady-O”. Written and performed acoustically by Judee Sill, it was a gentlegoodbye to the band.
Shell Shock remained in the vaults and as Kaylan and Volman regrouped as Flo and Eddie and wereabsorbed into Frank Zappa’s reformed Mothers of Invention, White Whalecontinued to exploit The Turtles name, the label’s only chartingact. After re-releasing some of theirmid-60s singles, White Whale released the more completed Shell Shock materialon the compilation More Golden Hits in 1970. But time would prove the protagonists as victors, as White Whale went bankruptand their assets auctioned off in 1974. Who was it that bought The Turtlesback-catalog? Two gentlemen by the nameof Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan! As “Happy Together” proved to be a timeless classic, thelegacy of The Turtles seemed profitable enough for re-releases, this timecontrolled by the actual founders of The Turtles.
Notable from this first reissue campaign onRhino Records was an official reconstruction of Shell Shock released in 1987, attemptingto match what the band might have released in 1970 had the album been finished! Unfortunately, Flo and Eddie’s own official ShellShock reconstruction is long out-of-print and is not even mentioned in the band’sown online discography. Luckily for us, all ofthe songs trickled out as bonus tracks on The Turtles reissues on the Repertoireand Sundazed labels in the 90s. The mostrecent—which features the most superior mastering—is the anthology Solid Zinc,although the left and right channels are mysteriously swapped.
Even though the band’s own takeon Shell Shock is long forgotten, we have no trouble replicating it or rather,making our own take on it, an album that never was! My reconstruction of Shell Shock begins similarly to TheTurtles own out-of-print reconstruction from 1987, with the bombastic rocker “GoodbyeSurprise”. We are using the master fromSolid Zinc but with the channels swapped to be correct. Following is “Like it Or Not” taken from the compilationLet Me Be: 30 Years of Rock n Roll. “ThereYou Sit Lonely” and “We Ain’t Gonna Party No More” follow, with Side A concludingwith the uplifting “Lady-O”, all taken from Solid Zinc but with the channelsswapped.
Unlike the band’s official reconstruction,I am excluding “Cat In The Window”. Whileapparently produced by Jerry Yester—suggesting it indeed dates from the ShellShock sessions—the track sounds unfinished and more reminiscent of an outtakefrom their first album. Without moreinformation, the song is dropped to make a more concise album.
Side B deviates a bit from the band’s own reconstruction, asmy version opens with the ruckus of “Gas Money”, currently a bonus track from Flo & Eddie's self-released reissue of It Ain’t Me Babe. Following is “Can I GoOn” also from the Let Me Be compilation. Another deviation from the official Shell Shock is my exclusion of “DanceThis Dance”, a track rendered redundant because of the superior versionfound on the previous album Turtle Soup, as well as the fact that it didn’teven date from the Yester Sessions. Insteadis “You Want To Be a Woman” from the Repertoire reissue of Wooden Head, andthen “If We Only Had The Time” from the Repertoire reissue of Turtle Soup. While many feel that the atrocious “Who WouldEver Think That I Would Marry Margaret” was never truly intended to be on the album,I propose it probably would have been White Whale's condition for the album's release and it is included here as a historical curiosity at the very least. Notethat I am using the extremely rare stereo mix, only released once in 1970 onMore Golden Hits; every other release is the mono mix at an incorrect speed My reconstruction endswith “Teardrops”, taken from the Repertoire You Baby reissue.
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This is excellent, although I couldn't really see a reason to exclude 'Cat In The Window', so I've popped it back into side one on my copy! Great album - should be commercially available.My own latest project is the 'lost' second Neil Young and Crazy Horse album, known under the working title 'Oh, Lonesome Me'. Thanks Nick and David. I should point out that of the three songs here which don't feature Neil, only one - Downtown - exists in a live version with him (and even that is a different arrangement!)Apart from which, 'Look At All The Things' and 'I Don't Want To Talk About It' are Danny Whitten compositions, so I think he would have sung lead on them anyway. All you're missing, therefore, is Neil's guitar and backing vocals, which are ably provided by Nils Lofgren. I can't really imagine Neil even attempting backing vocals on 'I Don't Want To Talk About It' anyway; not a song his voice was ever meant to sing!Regarding 'Danny By The River' verses 'Fillmore East', you could switch out the versions of 'Winterlong' if you wanted, but I went with the 'Danny' version in order to keep it consistent with the other live track, 'It Might Have Been' (the only version I know of).I'm still hopeful the original studio take of 'Winterlong' will emerge one day, so I can switch it out for the live cut. 'Till then, I think this is the best you can do.
Thanks for the link. That guy has had some good ideas, but I don't like his heavy-handed use of bonus tracks; just compile the best album you can and let it stand alone!Anyway, he did get me thinking about a potential 1971 Dylan album, so I went ahead and did my own take on it:Side One:01 Watching the River Flow02 Crash On The Levee (Down in the Flood)03 Wallflower04 Only a Hobo05 Bring Me A Little Water06 I Shall Be ReleasedSide Two:01 You Ain't Goin' Nowhere02 George Jackson03 Tomorrow is a Long Time04 Song to Woody05 When I Paint My MasterpieceMostly sourced from 'Greatest Hits 2' and 'The Bootleg Series 10'. 'Tomorrow Is A Long Time' is a 'New Morning' out-take and 'Song To Woody' comes from the famous session with George Harrison.Which version of each song you choose to use is pretty much down to personal preference, but whatever, it's a fine listen (better than I expected) and well worth the time to compile.I thought 'Down In The Flood' was as good a name as any for it.
I've tried doing something like this. I only used outtakes and singles, though, and not alternate versions of released tracks:'I'll Keep It with Mine' ('65 piano version)'Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?' 'Sitting on a Barbed Wire Fence'If You Gotta Go, Go Now'I Wanna Be Your Lover'She's Your Lover Now'Positively 4th Street'Number One' (I faded it out about halfway through)'Mama, You Been on My Mind'Farewell, Angelina' (I used these last two rambling folk songs to close out each album side)I think I might have also used 'Tell Me, Momma' from 5/14/66 in LiverpoolAnyway, I found the whole thing could tell a story of discovering love and then losing it. I could never sequence the tracks to my liking and I ended up giving up on it. AnonymousSo, check it out Sonic. This is actually a hobby of mine as well and while I normally do hip-hop album reconstructions, I have some post-Waters Pink Floyd albums that I reconstructed: The Final Cut, which operates under the question 'what if Waters never left Pink Floyd?' Rambling Rose: (Double LP) LP1: Side One:1.
He's GoneLP 2: Side 2:5. Brown-Eyed Women6. Mexicali Blues7. Tennessee Jed8.
Wharf RatLP 2: Side One:1. One More Saturday Night2.
Black Throated Wind4. Comes a TimeLP 2 Side 2:5. Looks Like Rain6. Playing in The Band8.
To Lay Me Down9. Greatest Story Ever ToldThis would be akin to the Europe 72 release, instead of spreading it out over E72, Garcia, and Ace. As this is a double album, I omitted the songs that weren't debuted until after E72 (The Wheel, Cassidy, as well as Ramble On Rose, which didn't fit the nonsensical story line. The problem with this type of album that never was, is the sheer volume of all the new songs debuted in 71/72. An alternate version of The Flaming Lips' At War With The Mystics more in line with the aesthetics of The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi. Some of this era's b-sides are absolute killer tracks that should have been on the album:1. The W.A.N.D2.
You've Got To Hold On (b-side)3. The Sound of Failure4. My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion5. Vein Of Stars6. The Wizard Turns On.7.
Why Does It End? Time Travel, Yes!!
(b-side, Wayne Coyne version)9. Enthusiasm For Life (Fearless Freaks soundtrack)10.
Pompei And Gotterdamerrung11. The Gold In The Mountain Of Our Madness (b-side)12. The Stars Are So Big, I Am So Small (instrumental version).http://gabmixorama.blogspot.ca/. I know 'Four More Respected Gentlemen' - The Kinks, was already suggested, but there are different options for ways in which SLN could construct this and things to consider:How long is the album going to be?11 Tracks (shortened)? Or the 'rejected' version (15-tracks)?also: Most songs were recorded in both MONO and STEREO. Would he use MONO for the whole LP, or a STEREO LP?
Orrr he could do a mix (side 1 Mono), Side 2 Stereo)?As well as with the mono/stereo discussion, that leads to some versions of songs being longer than their mono or stereo counterparts. (Do you want a long version of the album based on selections he chooses, or do you want a shorter version based on the choices?This is what makes 'Four More Respected Gentlemen' so fun and subjective;). After an analysis of length of songs by MONO/ Stereo (where applicable), stereo is longer, although, you still could have a longer side, and then the shorter side to finish off the album.
Heres the list (all songs sourced from The Sanctury 2011/1998) re-issues.Side A:1.' She's Got Everything “ (a) (Anthology) (Early demo version) (mono) STEREO: 3:11 (LONGER)2.' Monica' (b) MONO: 2:13 STEREO: 2:16 (LONGER)3.' Songbird” (c) MONO: 2:25 (unreleased mix) STEREO: 2:27 (LONGER)4.' Johnny Thunder' (b) STEREO #1: 2:33 STEREO2 Remix: 2:36 (LONGER)5.'
Polly' (a) MONO: 2:51 STEREO: 2:52 (LONGER)6.' Days' (a) MONO: 2:55 STEREO: 2:53 BBC: 3:02 (LONGER)Side B:1.' Animal Farm' (b) BBC Session mix: 2:56 STEREO (alt. Mix): 3:02 ( LONGER)2.' Berkeley Mews' (a) MONO: 2:36 STEREO: 2:40 (LONGER)3.' Picture Book' (b) MONO: 2:34 STEREO: 2:38 (LONGER)4.' Phenomenal cat' (b) MONO: 2:34 STEREO: 2:38 (LONGER)5.'
Misty Water' (c) MONO: 3:12 STEREO: 3:05 (LONGER)Additional Tracks:1.' Autumn Almanac' (a) MONO: 3:06 STEREO: 3:16 ( Longer)2.' Did You See His Name' (a) MONO: 2:00 (LONGER) STEREO: 1:563.' There Is No Life Without Love' (c) MONO: 2:014.' Susannah's Still Alive' (a) MONO: 2:22 (LONGER) (Stereo) BBC: 2:14.
Classic rockers have announced their 10th annual joined by another fantastic lineup of popular ’60s music acts. The 2019 version of the tour will be making notable stops in Westbury, Englewood, Jim Thorpe, Costa Mesa and Nashville among many others. In addition to The Turtles, the rest of the lineup consists of (formerly of, and.Last year's version was joined by, Chuck Negron, Gary Puckett & the Union Gap, (formerly of ) and The Cowsills. Also in 2018, The Turtles' founding member Howard Kaylan was sidelined “for medical reasons” and was replaced by from.
In previous years, the tour has featured other ’60s acts like,. The Turtles Concert Schedule No Events! =( About The Turtles Tour AlbumsThe Turtles came on the Pop / Rock scene with the release of the album 'You Baby' published on November 30, 1965. The song 'Outside Chance' immediately became a hit and made The Turtles one of the fastest growing talents at that time. Since then, The Turtles published the extremely beloved album 'Happy Together' which includes some of the most well-known tracks from the The Turtles collection. 'Happy Together' features the single 'Happy Together' which has made itself the most requested for followers to experience during the gigs.
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